The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? Remove with transmission attached. MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. you have a diamond in the rough. Learn how your comment data is processed. Is a swap possible? You are using an out of date browser. One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. JavaScript is disabled. Navigation Menu. As a side note, the block has over 150k on it and the bores are still within a thou of origional specs, there are no ring marks at the top and you can still see the factory cross-hatch. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Not needed anyhow. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. from my search I limit the option for an engine swap between the M104.980 from w124 300ce 24v and the M104.990 from a W140 320. Mercedes M104 make a good tuning project and with carefully chosen sports modifications like remapping, turbo upgrades and camshafts you will substantially increase your driving opportunities. What can be done and how much will it cost? It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. Im very glad Ive discovered this thread as when I started the swap in January this wasnt posted yet, Im mechanically minded but new to cars and electrics in general, any pointer will be much appreciated, thanks! '85 Euro 190E 2.3-16, '84 Euro 500SE, '90 300SEL, '51 Euro 170S, '15 G63 AMG. Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as Originally Posted by Kestas. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Sweden for a dyno tune. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. as i have said, the chassis for 2.6 vs all other models are different. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. Navigation Menu . You must log in or register to reply here. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. It barely sticks now when floored. i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Looks like im gonna be spending a lot of money on this projecthehe. Makes a fantastic daily driver. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? haha, no worries! engine alone. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. Any slk egne fit in there? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. i dont think i need to do anything to the firewall. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. JavaScript is disabled. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. I believe you are correct that it came with a V6. Use it however you wish or block it off. with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. I've gotten the complete HFM/CC/ISC harnesses out, ready to harvest more. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? via Oppositelock. I owned a supra before this car and miss it. Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? All bolt-in, no welding required. You are using an out of date browser. CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I would also like to do suspension up grades and a EVOII kit in the future. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. However, The flywheel is going to be a problem for you. Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. Bolt starter to transmission later. Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. Swapped! If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). ugh! This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. He is an electrical wizard. Install without transmission. 20cm is slightly too long). After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 While there Auto-Gruppen persuaded the turbocharged 3.2 L Mercedes M104 inline-six into making 953 hp and 1081 Nm (797 lb-ft) of torque to the wheels on 2.14 bar (31 psi) of boost from a EFR9180 turbocharger. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. His forum name is SG Motorsports. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. Said it made around 345hp(?) This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. JavaScript is disabled. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . Maybe a steering unit from a w210? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. Well, I am right with you. : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. Learn how your comment data is processed. Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. Was real nice. The motor is mated to a modified 722.634 five-speed automatic transmission with custom 5000 rpm converter, W124 210 mm LSD rear end, and Sportline 300E 32 mm axles. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. It may not display this or other websites correctly. whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. __________________. Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. My M104 is a 99 hfm. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. AMG would be nice and or a V8. Is that a street car? And if so is there no way around it? Lower hose is only about 20cm long. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. How much power can you get out of the 16v? The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. changing the clutch and pulling out m104 engine on my 2.0 W201 190Eswap,320e,e320,w124,m104,m104 3.2,mercedes-benz,plasme cutting,mercedes,,190,190e,. Yup, that's John's car. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. When you find one, buy it. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. Learn how your comment data is processed. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. it isnt a direct swap. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. 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