The only position possible with the specialized Schuetzen design. I do understand the words, but is that black powder or smokeless ? Buy Antique JOHN WURFFLEIN .415 Caliber Percussion TARGET Rifle Schuetzen Phila: GunBroker is the largest seller of Antique Guns Collectible Firearms All: 972355921 . Has 7x42 wetzlar scope. All firearms: pistol, revolver, shotgun & rifle transactions will be conducted in . The book. Make sure each round is fully in contact with the next round and is not rattling around. From looking at your loaded rounds and the cast of my chamber I made they look the same. Available calibers include .22 Long Rifle, .25-20 Single Shot, .25-20 WCF, .25-21, 28-30 Stevens, .32-20 WCF or CPA, .32-40, .33-40, .38-55 and many others. marked 53, 9514, 1721?8 Prima Kruppscher Guesstahl K, sliding a, #873A R . 2010, TIER ONE MEDIA, LLC. It is a rimless, bottlenecked cartridge with a maximum case length of 2.94 inches. The first Schuetzen rifles were caplock muzzle loaders that were the direct descendants of the German Jeager rifles so popular with the immigrants from that country. Hunting Marksmanship never took on the social and political importance that the Schtzen movement did but was important and recognized by the organized hunting Associations. "Schuetzen" competition was usually fired at 200 or 220 yards offhand. If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-. Wall hangers are not in my vocabulary! A Schuetzen is a type of rifle used in European long-range competition. Schuetzen is the sport of offhand rifle target shooting using antique or replica single-shot rifles. by Old No7 Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:30 pm, Post Larry B. Schuknecht & Dutchman Wood Works, The 5.6x35R Vierling, 5.6x36R & .22 Hornet, 14.5x49R & 14.5x52R Dombrowski-Heissig Hochwildpatrone, H. 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The German still uses his "lucky" targets, but no longer values very highly the records made upon them, while the American has discarded his ten pound, three pound pull gun for the Schuetzen rifle, recognizing the utility of the German appliances, palm-rests, set triggers, Schuetzen butt plates, cheek pieces, and has gone him one better by Sounds like a helluva start. The load info given with the old German proofmarks is not the proof load, but the service load the gun is proofed for to use. C&R. No mounted scope. Schuetzens are heavy, 12 to 15 pounds, much of that weight in the barrel. It is identified as a Neumann Original Zentrum Modell II in period advertising. The Bodyguard 38 revolver, chambered in 38 plus P. While it looks somewhat like a hammerless Smith and Wesson, its really quite different. Barrel measures approx. Very interesting, Id love to make contact with the guy who wrote the Schuetzen article as Ive a few questions Id like to ask him. Last week my father gifted me some old family guns. The grounds where the competition took place was referred to as the Vogelwiese. Overall very good to excellent condition. The rifles accepted technical changes - like brass cartridges - but the sport did not. Shooting at the Popinjay (parrot) or other bird targets also dates back to Roman times. Springer Single shot on a Heeren type block action, high power 7 x 64, 24 1/4 Bohler Antnit steel 1/2 RD. My log on minutes ran out since the winter of 2002 and had to get a new pass word, couldn't remember it. Like many Schuetzen rifles of the period, it sports a set of double set triggers. Dont go were the path leads,go were there is no path and leave a trail. Another bird target was the Eagle target which was much larger than the Popenjay target. Some of our stops included the Waffen Museum in Suhl, The Museum and Shooting grounds of the Schtzenbundes at Gotha, The Mauser Museum in Oberndorf, and the Schtzen Museum at Schloss Callenberg. 30" Octagon Barrel. The cylinder release has been completely re-designed. The Ultimate Firearms Destination for the Gun Lifestyle, 2023 Recoil Magazine Standard barrel sizes are #2 (1.00"), #2 1/2 (1.03"), #3 (1 1/16"), #4 (1 1/8"), and #5 (1 3/16") in part octagon or round. This .30-caliber round has been proven in wartime and in the hunting field. 32 & Net Price List, 1937 BSW (Berlin-Suhler Waffen) Catalog & Price List, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Greif Bock-Gewehre, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Greif Drillinge, Greifelt & Co. circa 1940-1942 Kipplauf, Bolt Action & Single Shot Rifles, Fredk W. Hollender- New York, Schuler Import, Franz Jger Heroldbchse & Herold Repetierbchse, Lancaster Arms Co., Infallible Single Trigger, Imman. These rifles are usually built to order, with a variety of options to suit your specific needs. Known as Schuetzen rifles, these were named after the German military term of the time basically referring to "snipers". SOLD - $2,495.00. by Bill in Oregon Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:40 am, Post An informal target practice with the cross bow, From, Shooting with a rifle at a moving target of a jousting Knight From, Rifle shooting at a round target in Zurich, Switzerland in 1504. The Nemesis ANSR (Advanced Nemesis Sniper Rifle) is a switch-barrel platform that boasts ambidextrous controls (including the bolt assembly), a modern ergonomic folding chassis system and a quick-change caliber conversion, allowing the user to change calibers (including going across long/short action calibers by changing out the magwell) while boasting a consistent return-to-zero across . Reload ammunition into the chamber or magazine and close the action. 10 Best ways to Make Money on Social Media and not waste time. looks better in person. Barrels are normally up to 28" long, but are available up to 34" long. This Rifle appears to have had a, Franz Langenhan Kleinkaliberbuchse Single Shot Rifle in .22LR. 28" Octagon Barrel. by Nath Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:03 am, Post As the bore/land diameter is given with the old gauge number 527 = 5.25 5.50 mm, the rifle was proofed 1893 1911. and practice with it must date back to that time. I wouldn't put to much faith in Bertram brass. The Schuetzen musket caps are very hot, and give you consistent shot groupings. Especially since there are no other marks on the rifle. This store is located outside of Reno, Nevada, less than 10 miles from the California border. by Old No7 Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:48 pm, Post An ethical hunter endeavors to be a good marksman and by that means he is able to make a clean kill on the game he is after. In Germany riflemen shoot at a body 2 feet in diameter, and weigh the splinters. Californias confusing gun laws and firearm sales practices seem to make it difficult for most people to sell their old firearms in that state at times. It appears I have this same rifle but only very minor engraving on the metal on mine. As part of the rush to dive headfirst into the First World War, the government used a "media blitz" (sound familiar?) Schuetzen Matches are shot at 200 yards with a specialized target. GERMAN NMN SHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK SINGLE SHOT 9.3X48R GI#: 102141153 ID # 8341 Make GERMAN NMN Model SCHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK Configuration Single Shot Gauge / Caliber 9.3X48R Price $2,500. The cards they are printed on generally measure 5 1/2 inches square (14 mm). Check the weapon to make sure it is unloaded by opening the action and visually inspecting the chamber and magazine (if present). Buy a schuetzen online Now! All matching and original finish. There are manual and self-loading (automatic, semi-automatic) types of repeating rifles. If these charge weights had been used with fixed ammunition, the results probably would have been awful. Franz Langenhan Kleinkaliberbuchse Single Shot Rifle .22LR VERY NICE!!! S/N 2078X, 1970 fortuna drilling very nice condition. 40cal Action Single Shot Magazines N/A Capacity 1 Weight 13 Lbs Barrel Lenght 31 inches Overall Lenght 48 Inches Front Sight Hodden Rear Sight Leaf Finish Blue Frame Steel Stock Wood Barrel makings are silver like in color. From the markings the 7,7 may mean it was originally in 7.7 mm (about .311 caliber). MAKE OFFER. Action Type: Lever Operated Falling Block Single Shot Rifle, Martini Style Action with Internal Extractor and Double Set Triggers 30 Octagon Barrel. Equipment has settled on a rifle of .38 caliber weighing 10 to 12 pounds, with a rifling twist rate of one turn in 16 to 18 inches and firing a bullet of 250 to 300 grains. When I say I practice a lot I mean with a hand gun. Lot 2252, Apr 12, 2023 . Matches are held the 2nd Tuesday of each month, from May through September, from 3pm to close, on the west-half of the 100 yard range. While competitors typically use Ballard, Sharps, Remington rolling-block, or Winchester high- or low-wall rifles or modern-made replicas of these designs modern rifles such as the Ruger No. A very scarce and highly collectible German Zimmer Schuetzen Parlor Gun Rifle made by K. Hermann of Germany, late 19th century. These rifles were most often based on the falling block Martini system and, as can be seen with this example, great lengths were taken to achieve extreme accuracy. Flat trajectory never was important when used in target shooting. Sights are the traditional peep rear and open or globe front sight. This rifle most likely uses a rimmed brass case. It has an aluminum alloy frame with a stainless steel barrel liner and titanium cylinder. Bullet moulds might be a little harder to come by but it will give you a little more than the 32-40 has to offer especialy for a new shooter. It can cause extreme stress on the gun if fired with 2-3/4" shells in a 2-9/16" chamber. A new schuetzen costs about the same with the Stevens 44-1/2 action made by CPA being the frontrunner both in 1900 and today. RSW, I agree that the highcomb Pope is to much, I have a high comb 51 from CPA (which I don't think they make anymore) and it is great for a big guy (me too) when using a unertl scope height. Luckily mine has the rear sight, it has unusual method of adjustment. It is located a few miles north of Frederick MD. Make sure you are in a safe shooting area with a suitable backstop. Both built breech-loading rifles that were loaded with a "false muzzle" to guide the soft lead bullet as straight as possible into the bore. Is this possible. They are the first firearms in the industry to have a laser built into the gun, you cannot buy them without it. The sport of Schtzen shooting had been a mainstay of German cultural life since before the invention of firearms. check out the. 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It is made of wood, handsomely painted, and is 9 feet high by 12 feet wide, and is composed of 18 parts or sections, firmly doweled together. GI#: 102112162 Your email address will not be published. POD-209275, Home Guns Story of the Schuetzen rifle. said to an enemy who asked him to surrender you may lick my ass meaning Im not at all interested in your opinion, proposal or order, I dont get nevious about some mistake. Load the ammunition into the magazine, if applicable, or directly into the chamber of the weapon. I've only held a couple of schuetzen rifles and I came away with this: The exaggerated shapes schuetzen stocks are very personal Try some out before you buy. I Wrote to Bertram two weeks ago and they have the brass in stock I think it's around 38.00 per twenty and they said the shipping would be about 28.00 for up to 100 rounds. At this time we do not process firearm sales through this web site. It is a highly accurate and specialized target gun that uses a readily available 4MM cartridge. A most pleasant discovery was how consistent these load combinations are. wrote in his fifth book of the neid about an event that neas arranged whereupon competitions in racing, boxing and archery took place. Type: Rifle. HAENEL ORIGINAL AYDT TAKEDOWN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, Simson & Co. Karabiner .22 Caliber Single Shot Rifle S/N 79481XX, Fredrich Langenhan Single Shot .22 LR **Made in mid 1920** Like new, Erma E36 Pre-War W.K. In this case, the rear trigger must be set to allow the front trigger to fire. by Pitchy Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 pm, Post 6) 14 2 power Unertl 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 or lyman super targetspot. I thought it was great! Zimmer Schuetzen - Rifle. A full size Bird Target which survived a shooting event in more or less one piece. BERTRAM! Pro Tip Phil Strader on Draw and Reload. This organization is composed of German and American Riflemen. Manufacturer: German. Engraved, German, Nitro Proof, 27.5 Barrels. The wood is pretty and well sh, 24 inch barrel and sling swivels. That is a beautiful rifle. Interpretation- The Heath (Black) Cock and the Capercaily (Mountain Cock) are pairing in April- the hunter has a cut above, he Pairs whenever he will. The shooter who detaches the highest valued piece (often the main body or the Heart of the target) is the Champion of the competition and is announced as the Konigschusse or King of the Shoot. The butt stock is so customized that the shooter for whom it was built is likely the only one who can fire the rifle accurately. hammer actuated by main spring that, #426A EARLY MEUNIER PERCUSSION RIFLE, 41 cal., 33" oct. It has flip up express sights. Breech seating the bullet served to dramatically improve the ignition characteristics of the propellants used. Schuetzen rifles were originally from the 14th and 15th Century, and muzzle loaders. You may have to make or have made the part you need. Mine has K. Stiegele and if you hunt around you can find some interesting information on him. by Pete44ru Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:53 pm, Post The only other information I got from the seller was that the rifle was given to him by a friend whose father supposedly took this (and others) from from a hunting lodge owned by Erwin Rommel, but there is no supporting evidence of that. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Barrel is 26.5"". From the time that man learned to throw a rock there has been practice doing it. Brass - For the cases, had 2 options: reform them from 11mm Lebel or search the Internet for available obsolete brass. Americans used the 32-40 and in Germany it was the aforementioned 8.15 X 46R.which is easily made from 30-30 brass. The 9.362mm (also known as 9.362mm Mauser) is a rimless, bottlenecked rifle cartridge designed in 1905 by German gunmaker Otto Bock. The two skills that can significantly improve your scores in practical shooting. 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